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4.1 The blue continuum in Seyfert 2 galaxies</A>
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4.2 Excitations and abundances in ion<I>H</I><I>II</I> nuclei and AGNs</A>
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4.3 Objects with weak [ion<I>N</I><I>II</I>] lines</A>
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4.4 Seyfert 2s and Liners</A>
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<H1><A NAME="SECTION00040000000000000000">
4 Discussion</A>
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<P><H2><A NAME="SECTION00041000000000000000">
4.1 The blue continuum in Seyfert 2 galaxies</A>
</H2>
<P><A
 HREF="node6.html#kos78">Koski (1978)</A>
 and <A
 HREF="node6.html#kay94">Kay (1994)</A> found that all Seyfert 2 galaxies show 
an ultraviolet excess and 
weak absorption lines when compared with galaxies with no emission lines, 
indicating the presence of a blue featureless continuum. 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#boi86">Boisson &amp; Durret (1986)</A>
 and 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#vac97">Vaceli et&nbsp;al. (1997)</A> suggested that this continuum is 
a non-thermal power-law continuum. 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#kin91">Kinney et&nbsp;al. (1991)</A> argued that most of the Seyfert 2s in which a blue continuum has 
been observed are of type Sb or earlier, suggesting that it is truly 
associated with the Seyfert nucleus. 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#shu81">Shuder (1981)</A> 
showed that its strength and the <IMG WIDTH="23" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img4.gif"
 ALT="$\rm H\alpha$"> luminosity are 
strongly correlated suggesting that a direct physical connection exists between 
the two; studying a sample of 28 Seyfert 2s, 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#yee80">Yee (1980)</A> found that the 
<IMG WIDTH="23" HEIGHT="25" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img6.gif"
 ALT="$\rm H\beta$"> and continuum fluxes (rather than luminosities) are proportional over 
two orders of magnitude, with, however, a relatively large dispersion; but 
a number of those objects are now known to be Seyfert 1 galaxies.
<P><A
 HREF="node6.html#mar83">Martin et&nbsp;al. (1983)</A> discovered that a small fraction of all Seyfert 2 galaxies have a 
highly polarized continuum. Subsequently, 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#ant85">Antonucci &amp; Miller (1985);</A> 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#mil90">Miller &amp; Goodrich (1990)</A>
 and 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#tra92">Tran et&nbsp;al. (1992)</A> showed that 
these objects harbour a hidden Seyfert 1 
nucleus, the observed polarized continuum arising from scattering of the 
nuclear continuum by dust or warm electrons. But most Seyfert 2s have very 
little polarization 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#mar83">(Martin et&nbsp;al. 1983),</A> much less than expected in the 
reflection model 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#mil90">(Miller &amp; Goodrich 1990).</A>
<P>
On the other hand, 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#ter90">Terlevich et&nbsp;al. (1990)</A> showed that in Seyfert 2 galaxies, the IR Ca II triplet is equal 
or, in some cases, higher than in normal elliptical galaxies, which is most 
naturally explained by the presence of young stars contributing heavily to 
the nuclear light at near-IR  wavelengths.
<P><A
 HREF="node6.html#hec95">Heckman et&nbsp;al. (1995)</A> used <I>International Ultraviolet Explorer (IUE)</I> 
spectra of 20 of the brightest type 2 Seyfert nuclei to build an ultraviolet 
template for this class; while the continuum was 
well detected in the  template, there was no detectable broad line region (BLR), 
implying that no more than 20% of the template continuum could be light 
from a hidden Seyfert 1 nucleus scattered by dust; they suggested 
that either most of the nuclei in their sample were &quot;pure'' type 2 Seyfert 
galaxies for which we have a direct view of the central engine and which 
simply lack of BLR, or that most of the observed ultraviolet 
continuum is produced by starbursts. From the absence of polarization of the 
continuum of most Seyfert 2 galaxies and of broad Balmer lines, 
Cid Fernandez &amp; Terlevich (1995) concluded that, most probably, this 
continuum was due to a population of young stars in the vicinity of the 
nucleus. <A
 HREF="node6.html#col97">Colina et&nbsp;al. (1997)</A> obtained 
ultraviolet <I>HST</I> images of four nearby Seyfert 2 galaxies known to 
have circumstellar star-forming rings, providing direct empirical evidence 
that the UV flux emitted by these galaxies is dominated by radiation 
coming from clusters of young hot stars distributed along the star-forming 
ring. If similar rings are a common characteristic of Seyfert 2 
galaxies, the large <I>IUE</I> aperture would include
 both the Seyfert 2 nucleus 
and the rings for distances larger than 25&nbsp;Mpc. 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#gon98">Gonzalez Delgado et&nbsp;al. (1998)</A> presented <I>HST</I> images and ultraviolet spectra of three 
Seyfert 2 nuclei (IC&nbsp;3639, NGC&nbsp;5135 and IC&nbsp;5135); the data
 show the existence 
of nuclear starbursts (with absorption features formed in the 
photosphere of 
late O and early B stars) dominating the ultraviolet light. 
It is remarkable 
that, of the three observed galaxies, two (NGC&nbsp;5135 and IC&nbsp;5135) have a 
&quot;composite'' nuclear emission spectrum, while the third (IC 3639), which has 
the largest UV nuclear flux (associated with the Seyfert nucleus) relative to 
the total UV flux, has a pure Seyfert 2 spectrum due to the relative weakness 
of the starburst emission component.
<P>
We conclude that there is ample evidence for the presence of young, hot 
stars in the nuclear region of many Seyfert 2 galaxies. When the  
continuum is relatively bright, 
the associated H II region could be strong enough to displace the 
object into the 
&quot;transition'' zone in the diagnostic diagrams.
<P>
AGNs are more frequent in 
early type galaxies while starbursts 
are more often found in late-type galaxies 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#ver86">(V&#233;ron &amp; V&#233;ron-Cetty 1986;</A> 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#ho97b">Ho et&nbsp;al. 1997b;</A>
 <A
 HREF="node6.html#vac97">Vaceli et&nbsp;al. 1997).</A> It is therefore rather surprising to 
find almost systematically a population of young stars in Seyfert 2 galaxies; 
perhaps the nuclear activity triggers the star  formation?
<P><H2><A NAME="SECTION00042000000000000000">
4.2 Excitations and abundances in ion<I>H</I><I>II</I> nuclei and AGNs</A>
</H2>
<P>
The <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img1.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 5007/{\rm H}\beta$"> and <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img2.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6583/{\rm H}\alpha$"> ratios are strongly correlated in H II regions. 
Theoretical studies show that the heavy-metal abundances 
change continuously along this 
sequence, a low <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img1.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 5007/{\rm H}\beta$"> ratio indicating a high metal abundance and a high 
<IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img1.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 5007/{\rm H}\beta$"> ratio, a low metal abundance, with the heavy metal abundances changing 
from <IMG WIDTH="47" HEIGHT="24" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img109.gif"
 ALT="$1.5 \,Z_{\hbox{$\odot$}}$"> at the lower right of Fig. <A HREF="node3.html#dd">4</A>a to 
<IMG WIDTH="55" HEIGHT="24" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img110.gif"
 ALT="$0.25 \,Z_{\hbox{$\odot$}}$"> at the 
upper left (see for instance 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#dop86">Dopita &amp; Evans 1986;</A>
 <A
 HREF="node6.html#ho97b">Ho et&nbsp;al. 1997b).</A> 
However, <A
 HREF="node6.html#sta96">Stasinska &amp; Leitherer (1996)</A> have shown that most startbusts 
and H II galaxies can be described as being produced by an evolving 
starburst with an universal initial mass function embedded in a gas cloud 
of the same metallicity. The emission line ratios depend mainly on two 
independent parameters: the age of the starburst and the metallicity. In 
this scenario, the <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img1.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 5007/{\rm H}\beta$"> ratio effectively changes with these two parameters 
and therefore is not a direct measurement of metallicity. 
The metallicity is strongly correlated with luminosity, luminous 
galaxies having higher metallicities; this correlation is also valid for 
elliptical galaxies, for which the metallicity is determined from absorption 
lines with [O/H] <IMG WIDTH="14" HEIGHT="13" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img13.gif"
 ALT="$\sim$"> 1 at <I>M</I><SUB><I>B</I></SUB> = -21 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#sal89">(Salzer et&nbsp;al. 1989;</A>
 <A
 HREF="node6.html#zar94">Zaritsky et&nbsp;al. 1994).</A>
<P>
AGNs are known to occur preferentially in high luminosity 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#ho97b">(Ho et&nbsp;al. 1997b),</A> 
early-type 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#ver86">(V&#233;ron &amp; V&#233;ron-Cetty 1986;</A>
 <A
 HREF="node6.html#vac97">Vacali et&nbsp;al. 1997)</A> galaxies; 
they are therefore expected to have high metallicities. 
Indeed, the NLRs of active galactic nuclei have enhanced nitrogen abundances 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#sto89">(Storchi-Bergmann &amp; Pastoriza 1989, 1990;</A>
 <A
 HREF="node6.html#sto92">Storchi-Bergmann et&nbsp;al. 1992;</A> 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#sch94">Schmitt et&nbsp;al. 1994).</A>
 In these NLRs, [N/O] correlates with [O/H] in a 
manner identical to H II regions in normal galaxies, with nuclear [O/H] 
and [N/O] values ranging from <IMG WIDTH="35" HEIGHT="24" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img111.gif"
 ALT="$1 \,Z_{\hbox{$\odot$}}$"> to <IMG WIDTH="35" HEIGHT="24" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img112.gif"
 ALT="$2\, Z_{\hbox{$\odot$}}$"> 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#sto96b">(Storchi-Bergmann et&nbsp;al. 1996b).</A>
 Storchi-Bergmann et&nbsp;al. (1996b,c) have determined the chemical 
composition of the H II regions in the ring surrounding the nucleus of several 
AGNs, as well as in the nuclei; high metallicities were found ([O/H] 
<IMG WIDTH="51" HEIGHT="24" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img113.gif"
 ALT="$\sim 2 \,Z_{\hbox{$\odot$}}$"> and 
[N/O] <IMG WIDTH="51" HEIGHT="24" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img114.gif"
 ALT="$\sim 3\, Z_{\hbox{$\odot$}}$">) 
both in the H II regions and in the AGNs, 
these abundances being 
similar to those found in the nuclei of non-active galaxies with the same 
morphological type and absolute magnitude. Further work by 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#sto98">Storchi-Bergmann et&nbsp;al. (1998)</A> has shown that, in fact, oxygen abundances 
derived for Seyfert 2 nebulosities and neighbouring H II regions (assuming 
that the emission lines in the active nucleus are due to photoionization 
by a typical active galactic nucleus continuum) are well correlated, while 
this is not the case for Liners. This suggests that the gas in AGNs 
and in the neighbouring H II regions has the same origin and that the 
scatter observed in the Seyfert 2 region in the 
diagnostic diagrams, involving the <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img2.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6583/{\rm H}\alpha$"> ratio, is due to variations in the 
nitrogen abundance. In NGC&nbsp;6300, in which <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img2.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6583/{\rm H}\alpha$">&nbsp;= 3.4, the 
nitrogen abundance is estimated to be <IMG WIDTH="51" HEIGHT="24" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img115.gif"
 ALT="$\sim 5\, Z_{\hbox{$\odot$}}$">.<P>
We have seen that nuclear H II regions and Seyfert 2 nebulosities, when 
appearing in the same galaxy, have the same high metallicity; as a 
result of their metallicity, the H II regions have a low excitation, while 
the Seyfert 2 nebulosities have a high excitation. This explains why it is 
relatively easy to separate the two components in &quot;transition'' spectra.
<P><H2><A NAME="SECTION00043000000000000000">
4.3 Objects with weak [ion<I>N</I><I>II</I>] lines</A>
</H2>
<A NAME="weak_NII_lines">&#160;</A>
Figure <A HREF="node3.html#dd">4</A> shows a small number of objects which 
have very weak [N II] lines for Seyfert 2 galaxies; their [O I] lines 
are however normal for this class of objects.
<P>
The first photoionization models invoked to explain the narrow emission lines 
in AGNs assumed a single density cloud. However, new observations quickly 
suggested the presence of several emitting clouds, ruling out single 
component models. Most of the multicloud models first studied 
were such that the emitting 
gas, as a whole, was ionization-bounded and thus the He II<IMG WIDTH="11" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img21.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda$">4686 
line intensity relative to <IMG WIDTH="23" HEIGHT="25" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img6.gif"
 ALT="$\rm H\beta$"> was 
determined by the hardness of the ionizing spectrum. In these models, the 
extreme values reached by the <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img62.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 4686/{\rm H}\beta$"> ratio are not 
well reproduced. A number of 
objects have <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img62.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 4686/{\rm H}\beta$"> of the order of 0.2 or more; such high values cannot be 
accounted for unless the line emitting clouds are matter-bounded 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#sta84">(Stasinska 1984).</A> On the 
basis of a weak trend for the low excitation lines to become weaker as 
<IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img62.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 4686/{\rm H}\beta$"> gets larger, 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#vie88">Viegas-Aldrovandi (1988)</A>
 and 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#vie92">Viegas &amp; Prieto (1992)</A> argued 
in favor of a model in which matter-bounded clouds are present; indeed, if the 
gas is not optically thick to all the ionizing continuum (i.e., is matter 
bounded), the H<SUP>+</SUP> emitting volume is smaller, but the He<SUP>++</SUP> volume 
is not, leading to a higher <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img62.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 4686/{\rm H}\beta$"> line ratio. Moreover, 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#vie88">Viegas-Aldrovandi &amp; Gruenwald (1988)</A>
 and 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#rod98">Rodriguez-Ardila et&nbsp;al. (1998)</A> showed that, for most 
AGNs, the observed low-excitation lines are better explained by matter-bounded 
models with about 50% of the <IMG WIDTH="23" HEIGHT="25" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img6.gif"
 ALT="$\rm H\beta$"> luminosity produced in 
ionization-bounded clouds.
<P><A
 HREF="node6.html#sto96a">Storchi-Bergmann et&nbsp;al. (1996a)</A> have obtained long-slit spectra of five 
active galaxies showing extended high excitation lines. At some positions, 
two of the objects (PKS 0349-27 and PKS 0634-20) show quite peculiar 
line ratios, with a strong He II<IMG WIDTH="11" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img21.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda$">4686 line (<IMG WIDTH="41" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img116.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 4686$">/  
<IMG WIDTH="62" HEIGHT="25" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img117.gif"
 ALT="$\rm H\beta \gt 0.3$">) and 
weak [N II] lines (that is, <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img2.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6583/{\rm H}\alpha$"> &lt; 0.3). In fact, there seems to be 
a correlation between <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img2.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6583/{\rm H}\alpha$"> and <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img62.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 4686/{\rm H}\beta$">, weak [N II] lines being associated 
with strong He II emission, suggesting that very small <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img2.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6583/{\rm H}\alpha$"> ratios 
(as observed in the two above mentioned radiogalaxies) are not necessarily 
a signature of star-formation, but a natural consequence of having a 
region dominated by matter-bounded clouds 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#bin96">(Binette et&nbsp;al. 1996, 1997).</A> 
However, in the extranuclear regions of PKS 0349-278 in which strong 
He II<IMG WIDTH="11" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img21.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda$">4686 and weak [N II]<IMG WIDTH="11" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img21.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda$">6583 lines are observed, the 
[O I] <IMG WIDTH="11" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img21.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda$">6300 line is also reduced (<IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img3.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6300/{\rm H}\alpha$"> <IMG WIDTH="14" HEIGHT="13" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img13.gif"
 ALT="$\sim$"> 0.05), which is 
a natural consequence of the model 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#vie88">(Viegas-Aldrovandi 1988),</A> while in 
our sample of weak [N II]<IMG WIDTH="11" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img21.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda$">6583 galaxies, we verify that the 
[O I]<IMG WIDTH="11" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img21.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda$">6300 line is not weakened in most of the objects.
<P>
In Table <A HREF="node4.html#nii_line_ratios">8</A> we give the list of known AGNs with relatively 
weak [N II] lines (<IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img2.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6583/{\rm H}\alpha$"> &lt; 0.45) with published values of the <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img62.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 4686/{\rm H}\beta$"> and 
<IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img3.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6300/{\rm H}\alpha$"> ratios. Three objects in this table (UM 85, MS 04124-0802 and Mark 
699) have both weak [N II] lines (<IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img2.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6583/{\rm H}\alpha$"> &lt; 0.20) and a strong He II line 
(<IMG WIDTH="11" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img21.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda$">4686/<IMG WIDTH="23" HEIGHT="25" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img6.gif"
 ALT="$\rm H\beta$"> &gt; 0.30). 
In the last two, the [O I] lines are also relatively weak (<IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img3.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6300/{\rm H}\alpha$"> <IMG WIDTH="14" HEIGHT="23" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img118.gif"
 ALT="$\le$"> 0.05); 
these two objects could be dominated by matter-bounded clouds. Alternatively, 
in the other objects, the weakness of the [N II] lines could be due to a 
selective under-abundance of nitrogen. For a photoionized single cloud model 
with <IMG WIDTH="30" HEIGHT="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img119.gif"
 ALT="$U \sim$"> 10<SUP>-2.5</SUP>, 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#fer83">Ferland &amp; Netzer (1983)</A> predicted <IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img2.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 6583/{\rm H}\alpha$"> 
<IMG WIDTH="14" HEIGHT="13" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img13.gif"
 ALT="$\sim$"> 1.0 for solar nitrogen abundances and <IMG WIDTH="14" HEIGHT="13" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img13.gif"
 ALT="$\sim$"> 0.3 for nitrogen 
abundances <IMG WIDTH="14" HEIGHT="13" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img13.gif"
 ALT="$\sim$"> 0.3 solar.
<P>
<BR>
<DIV ALIGN="CENTER"><A NAME="1379">&#160;</A>
<TABLE>
<CAPTION><STRONG>Table 8:</STRONG>
<A NAME="nii_line_ratios">&#160;</A>Known AGNs with weak [N II] lines</CAPTION>
<TR><TD>
<IMG SRC="tab8.gif">
</TD></TR>
</TABLE>
</DIV>
<BR><H2><A NAME="SECTION00044000000000000000">
4.4 Seyfert 2s and Liners</A>
</H2>
<P>
It has been suggested by several authors (see for instance 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#fer83">Ferland &amp; Netzer 1983;</A>
 <A
 HREF="node6.html#shi92">Shields 1992;</A>
 <A
 HREF="node6.html#ho93a">Ho et&nbsp;al. 1993a)</A> that in Seyfert 2s, as well as in Liners, the ionized gas is 
excited by a non-thermal continuum, the only differences being the value of 
the ionizing parameter which would be <IMG WIDTH="57" HEIGHT="14" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img120.gif"
 ALT="$\sim\! 10^{-3.5}$"> for Liners, and 
<IMG WIDTH="57" HEIGHT="14" ALIGN="BOTTOM" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img121.gif"
 ALT="$\sim\!10^{-2.5}$"> for Seyfert 2s. If this is the case, the discontinuity 
between Seyfert 2s and Liners is not easily understood. No reliable detection 
of the He II line in <I>bona fide</I> Liners has been reported suggesting 
that there could be a serious problem with the picture of simply reducing 
<I>U</I> in a standard power-law photoionization model predicting 
<IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img62.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 4686/{\rm H}\beta$">&nbsp;&gt; 0.15 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#vie90">(Viegas-Aldrovandi &amp; Gruenwald 1990),</A> as the weakness of 
He II indicates that the continuum illuminating the NLR clouds must contain 
few photons more energetic than 
54.4&nbsp;eV, the ionization potential of He<SUP>+</SUP> 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#peq84">(P&#233;quignot 1984).</A>
 <A
 HREF="node6.html#bin96">Binette 
et&nbsp;al. (1996)</A> proposed that the emission spectrum 
of Liners is due to ionization-bounded clouds illuminated by a ionization 
spectrum filtered by matter-bounded clouds hidden from view by obscuring 
material. In this case, the He II emission is reduced
(<IMG WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="26" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0"
 SRC="img62.gif"
 ALT="$\lambda 4686/{\rm H}\beta$">&nbsp;&lt; 0.01). 
However, a nearly total obscuration of the matter-bounded component must then 
be invoked in order to keep the emission from He II at an acceptable low 
level, a scenario which seems to be rather unlikely to 
<A
 HREF="node6.html#bar96">Barth et&nbsp;al. (1996).</A>
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